I am against Hizballa
I am against hizballa for the following reasons:
1- They run a state within a state, while the others are trying to build a country.
2- They run an Islamic state.
3- Let's say that they did in fact beat Israel. Do I want someone who calls this a "divine" victory to be in charge? What does god have to do with politics? It is all about god and Islam?
5- Their goals go beyond Lebanon. I feel for the Palestinians being killed everyday, but we cannot take this anymore. A constant state of war, a culture of resistance. We need to focus on our internal conflicts first. I want to live, I want to be able to go back one day and find a job. I want peace. They want more wars.
4- I don't care about El assad and Ahmadenajad. They have brought death and destruction to Lebanon. Nasralla thanks them on every occasion. What do you need more?
5- We are a democracy. They cannot decide to resign or not show up to work at any time, at their leisure. They cannot say that they have to be included in governmental decisions. Minor detail, but what about starting a war? Is that democracy?
6- All of the above is minor in face of their weapons. If they are simply a political part, they would have to be involved in discussions, like everyone else. The problem is that they have weapons. Which gives them a considerable advantage. and huge disadvantage for all the Lebanese.
Most importantly, we are stuck on details. We have to look at the bigger picture. Irrespective of whether they are with or against an international tribunal, they want more power (and how, in fact, can any Lebanese, be against investigations targeting young politicians and journalists?).
posted by Paul at 11:27 AM
12 Comments:
What about:
they killing cevilians..81 in argentina, in israel more tha 100 in tha past years..or jews are not consider to cvilians?
what about:
they shooting on israeli cities near to cevilians places in your country? and than the people who suffer are Lebaneses?
what about:
they start war...1200 people killed because "samir kuntar" or "shaba farms"..a land that I, an israeli, have never seen..are this land worth it?
12:58 PM
anon,
Israelis are the last to condemn HA as far as 'killing civilians' is concerned. look in your own backyard first.
and every inch of land taken away unjustly is worth it, I'm sure this concept is not that easy for you to comprehend.
3:10 PM
First israel don't killed cevilians in purposely...
second, if israel doing it, so its make hezbolla killing as justified?
you know what, ignore of my country, you can think that I am Norwegian..now answer my question...
4:23 PM
Disagree:
1. Who is trying to build a country? Don't be naive - all the speeches doesn't mean anything, politicians are talking so bravely and loud, but to DO something for the country - never. Did goverment rebuild ANY of the bombed by Israel bridges - NO, Hizballah, Russia and France did. Did government give people any money for bombed by Israel homes? NO, Hizballah did. Did government protect Lebanon against Israel's bombing and intervention? No, Hizballah did.
2. What do you know about Islam? Learn about this religion, then talk.
3. What's wrong in beliefe in God?
4. Israel brought death and destruction to Lebanon, don't get mixed
5. Democracy that is beeing brought to Iraq? No one wishes for this kind.
6. All the lebanese have the right to vote, they voted for Hizballah, that's why they are (were) the part of the government, so, they have power because lebanese people want to give it to them. This is democracy. Free choice. Lebanese made it.
4:24 PM
Ano #1
This perspective is from a Lebanese point of view, an internal conflict point of view. I did not try to include the international agenda that Hizballa has in mind or the recent devastating war.
As much as I don't agree with Nasralla's plans, there is no doubt that Israel killed around 1200 civilians in 30 days, destroyed all bridges and the main aiport. This was not a war against Hizballa, this was intended to bring the Lebanese down to their knees.
As far as hizballa's killings, whether it is the attack in Argentina, the marines in Lebanon, or targeting israeli civilians, they are not any better.
Anyone targeting civilians is a murderer.
We are stuck between a rock, and a hard place.
6:25 PM
Ano #2
Needless to say, the current government has been unable to rise to our expectations. And the fact that I am against hizballa, does not mean that the government is doing its job. The world is not black or white. But between toppling Seniora and putting Nasralla/Berri/Aoun in charge, I am definitely with Seniora.
The why's, for me, are numerous, as i stated.
There was millions of dollars that were supposed to go to the South, that disappeared. Don't ask me where, Berri, who is in charge of reconstruction in the south probably has better answers.
Hizballa has been building its own infrastructure, schools, hospitals, even a social security system. This separatist behavior is not acceptable. I am sure that the government could have done better, but el hizb has encouraged this behavior.
Let's not get lost in details, yes hizballa reimbursed, but does iranian and syrian money replace homes, dead people, lost hope and immigration?Did hizballa rebuild bridges in all areas of lebanon? Isn't rebuilding the airport or saving the environment a priority as well? What about expectations? immigration?
Again, is starting a war a decision that hizballa is allowed to take without consulting other people? don't tell me that Nasralla didn't expect this. you don't play with fire and expect to get away with it.
I believe in god as well. But this does not cloud my vision. It does not influence my political decisions. This does not apply to hizballa whose struggle is not about Lebanon, but expands to evey where. I don't care what you believe in. As far as i am concerned, you can believe in onions. What I care about is that whatever you believe in does not affect me. And yes, unfortunately, Islam is embedded in politics. I don't want my country to be run a la Ahmadanenajad style.
As far as elections, yes people voted for hizballa. yes, they got ministers in the government. Great. They cannot, whenever they are unhappy, decide to resign and then bring down the government. Is that how we are trying to safeguard Lebanon?
8:31 PM
in response to anon #2, in addition to paul's comments, i would like to add that since lebanon is a democracy as you say..the lebanese people have voted for the current government and if HA had a problem with the voting system they shouldn't have participated with it to begin with.
10:14 AM
well...
this is not about liking or disliking hezbullah, liking or disliking aoun, liking or disliking march 14.
this is about being rational citizens that deserve the democracy they keep raving about.
whether i like or dislike hezbullah, i cannot accept to follow a political leader that attaches to himself a spiritual quality and considers himself divine. i also cannot accept to surrender to his whims of quitting the government he committed to join, or to his tactic to compensate his base from the losses incurred by the war he instigated by giving it more political power(whether US and Israel had already planned it does not justify his giving them the excuse to go ahead).
liking or disliking aoun, i cannot accept to follow a leader who has put his hand in the hand of the minister that arrested his followers, has been an avid defender of the system he had long fought and has renounced the non-confessionalism he had always embraced, all for the sake of his thirst for the presidency.
liking or disliking march 14, i cannot keep chanting the slogan of removing the president without any real effort to do so, nor keep blaming syria for every wrongdoing without proof, nor not make full use of the parliamentary majority to push a reform agenda.
i worry that all this blood that has been shed has indeed gone to waste. israel has wronged us, yes. syria has wronged us, yes. most importantly, we have wronged ourselves.
8:34 AM
mnee7a dot,
would also like to add that HA and Aoun are acting like a couple of spoilt brats or they think they r dealing w their own members when it comes to cabinet. so they participate, get in power and then decide that things r not going exactly their way so they decide it is time for a change and so now they want to change the cabinet, election law andthe best part is they don't mind lahoud staying until we all decide that aoun is the person to carry on the job. democracy has its ups and downs. the downs are that u might lose and u have to live with it. when mr aoun had his military gov't and all the muslims withdrew from it and him and his 2 stooges/sidekicks maalouf and abu gamra remained that did not stop him from considering himself legitimate. regards HA, when they criticize the gov't, lest we forget they r part of it, namely mr fneish, the electricity is still rationed in ur stronghold of dahyeh junubiyeh. so yes, march 14 r not perfect, they have no socio-economic plan, no reform steps that are clear, no fiscal or monetary policies that r encouraging and no balls to use the majority to do things, but still if it is a choice of lesser of evils, i would opt for saniora over karami, for jeajea over aoun and for jumblat and hmedeh over arslan and wahhab and of course anyone, be him a zulu over berri or nasrala. i hate to say this but we are paying the price of hariri (rafiq) for renewing for lahoud and for jumblat in convincing the rest of march 14 that berri should be head of parliament again. i hope berri surprises us. i doubt. at the end of the day, when a the husband and wife disagree, it is the children who pay the price and who u feel sorry for.
8:48 AM
Paul, yeslam temmak 3ala hal post!
2:25 AM
or idayk ;)
2:25 AM
AM, thanks:) I wish more people would feel the same way.
Meeps, my friend and brother, salam.
Dot, I couldn't agree more.
5:46 PM
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